Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

mhans13 wrote:

im already using the newest one from the asus website, i heard that one was the best.

i always use the newest one  from nvidia

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

furyagain wrote:
mhans13 wrote:

im already using the newest one from the asus website, i heard that one was the best.

i always use the newest one  from nvidia

yeah same. i think thats the best.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

alright ill update to the nvidia drive and see if that makes a difference.  i dont really have any bloatware, i mean i just got my n10 a couple days ago and all i did on it was downgrade to xp, update drivers, and intall fallout 3.  And when i try to run fallout 3 i have everything off, textures low.  Its to the point where sometimes i cant see the thing shooting at me because its too far away and my settings wont allow it.  I also just updated to service pack 3 which ive been procrastinating doing, and that didn't make any difference either.  thanks for all the help guys, but i just can't seem to get this to work.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

well the n10 comes with a SH*TLOAD of bloatware on it, so if you didnt set about getting id of it all, it will have a big impact on performance. and i think having the latest nvidia driver will help a ton too.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

well i downgraded to xp so that kinda got rid of all the crap that was loaded on there already.  I downloaded the newest nvidia drivers and it made a huge difference.  When fallout 3 did its test thing to see what settings to put the game at it picked medium instead of low.  Thats when i knew the new drivers made a difference, however idk if i would be able to play at the setting specified earlier in this thread.  I updated all of my drivers through asus, are there any other drivers that i could download from a different site that may also boost preformance?  also, are there specific computer settings i should be using for maximum preformance?  I mean obviously i need to turn on my overclock and set it into super preformance mode and keep it plugged in, but what about other settings, like the ones in the nvidia control panel?  Any other tips on speezing every last fps i can out of this game will be greatly appreciated as well. 

also guys, thanks so much for helping me out.  I kno ive asked quite a few questions over the past couple days on various threads but i only do so because (obviously im trying to figure out the answer to my question) and because u guys have all been so responsive and nice about it.  In many of the other forums ive been on people just roast noobs for asking stupid questions constantly, making it a not very friendly environemt and almost discouraging people who would get something out of the forum to use it.  This forum has been nothing like that, so thank you guys very much for all of this.

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31 (edited by welshmouse 2009-07-12 22:22:12)

Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

mhans13 wrote:

I mean obviously i need to turn on my overclock and set it into super preformance mode and keep it plugged in, but what about other settings, like the ones in the nvidia control panel?  Any other tips on speezing every last fps i can out of this game will be greatly appreciated as well.

the main thing to do is keep in mind which parts of the n10 perform well and which dont. namely, lower anything that will tax the procesor (shadows, advanced lighting, water reflections) and boot up the things the vid card control (textures and filtering). though the atom still bottlenecks, meaning you cant put anything too high, you should still be able to get a playable game that looks pretty good.
also be sure to lower draw distsances, since the atom has trouble rendering lots of stuff.
at the end of the day, the atom sucks, so you need to either live with lousy framerates or stick to older games, but if you can deal with the bad framerates you can play a fair few recent games. im fine with anything above 14fps, so i play plenty smile.
oh, and to get the best performance, make sure you right click the nvidia control panel, and select 'high performance' settings. you can also manually tweak it, and things like disabling AA and lowering the number of pre-rendered frames can help, but usually just setting to high performance does the job.


mhans13 wrote:

also guys, thanks so much for helping me out.

no problem big_smile
alot of forums seem to have issues with people asking questions (as if that not what a forum is for?) but we have a small community here filled with (mostly) friendly people.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

well fallout 3 is actually running really well now but for some reason theres this frame skip that occurs every now and then.  i looked it up cuz i knew i was getting a good enough frame rate and its actually a glitch, it has nothing to do with slow fps.  I tried finding a solution but i hear the solution results in the game going into almost a bullet-time, slow mo.  Does anyone know how to fix this frame skip without this unfortunate side effect because it really does take away from the smoothness of the game.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

ive not heard of this error, how exactly does itn happen? do you just skip forward or pause for a few seconds at a time?
one thing of note is the default n10 HDD is trash, and its too slow to keep up with most 'open-world' games. this can oten cause pauses as it re-loads data from the HDD. check to make sure your HD access indicator isnt flashing when it happens (left most light under the screen). if it is, then fallout 3 is having trouble with the stick HDD and you may need to upgrade. (one of the main reasons i upgraded my HDD was because oblivion kept hitching thanks to the HDD, so it makes sense fallout would have the same problem)

let us know though

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Well the error just looks like a frame is missing.  Like everything is running really smooth and then stops for like a fraction of a second (like one frame) and goes right back to being smooth untill it does it again.  I'm on my iPod touch right now so I can't post a link to a site that talks about the glitch but if you google "fallout 3 frame skip glitch" or some call it a stutter.  They say you can fix it by editing the .ini file somehow. I think it's something like "ilockfps" or something with fps in it.  I guess what that does is keep the same fps throughout by speeding things up when you fps is over the number and slowing things down when it goes below the number.  The only problem is that this would make the game go into slow motion when ur fps drop too low.  I was just wondering if u guys knew of a better fix.  If you want to see what this problem looks like there is a YouTube video demonstrating it.  I mean the game for me now looks and plays amazingly it's just a shame that Bethesda allowed such a glitch so the game won't run as smooth as it really can on the n10.  Btw this problem even occurs on the best machines getting upwards of 60 fps so this one can't be blamed on the n10s hardware.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

i dont experience this glitch, so im not sure what kind of factors it would arise from. though it does sound exactly like the HDD access issue you get with large draw data games.

but either way, locking the framerate wont do much good on the n10 since it runs so slowly anyway, so you'll only be able to lock at a really low frame rate(or get constant stuttering).

just in case its a HDD issue, do you have a memory card or faster external HDD you could copy the game data to? see if running from a better source fixes the issue.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

No but I think I'm just gunna not worry about it cuz it isn't that noticable and it's not like it makes the game any less fun.

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mhans13 wrote:

No but I think I'm just gunna not worry about it cuz it isn't that noticable and it's not like it makes the game any less fun.

oh, fair enough then. enjoy smile

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sorry i keep on bringing this up, but, although fallout 3 is running a lot better than when i first started, the game still crawls for me when i get into heavy combat, which is like the most fun parts of the game.  i see all over this forum and others how perfectly fallout 3 runs, but right now i can't say fallout 3 runs anywhere near perfect for me.  i have everything set to absolute lowest.  I changed the fallout3.ini file to get rid of grass completely to boost my fps a little bit.  The only settings i have above minimum are the fade distances for objects, actors, and items, because theres no point in playing the game when i can't even see whose shooting at me, and if i set actor up and leave object low, then i can see people that i shouldn't be able to see because they are actually behind a building that just hasn't appeared on my screan yet.  right now it runs fine when im not in combat, but is very laggy as soon as i have someone shooting at me.  if someone could post a video of this game while in heavy combat on their n10 so i could see how it handles that would be great, because idk if im just expecting more than i can get out of this game on this system.  Like i said i keep hearing how perfect this game runs and the state my game is in is certainly not perfect.  Idk if this helps at all but i tried playing half life 2 and that gets really laggy in fire fights (i heard that this too ran very smoothly), and i was playing counter strike source and i had everything at low setting and was still only getting frame rates in the 30s (i keep hearing of people getting in the 70s on high settings)  Any suggestions on this would be appreciated cuz all i think when i play fallout 3 is how much more fun i could be having with it if i didn't feel so restricted by the framerate.

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39 (edited by welshmouse 2009-07-19 02:30:58)

Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

if half life two is laggin then something is wrong. you should be able to crank HL2 up to max, at 1080p resolution and still play smoothly. i cant upload any videos since i dont actually have a working camera right now, but if i get hold of one ill try.
you definetly have your system OCd? checked it with CPUID and verified the correct clockspeed?
im not sure what could be wrong.

EDIT: and when you say laggy, what kind of framerates? since i would personally consider 20fps to be very smooth, i know some people have a reall issue with anything under 40.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

well when i say laggy i mean that everything slows down or the screen starts jumping around rather than fluid movement.  There are times when i was playing fallout 3 without action at all, and i was getting just above 15 fps and that seemed really smooth.  so no im not asking for over 40 fps but if i could keep it over 10 in combat i would be happy.  I did check my oc and i am deffinitly overclocked.

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Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

hey would updating my bios make the game work any better.  i never updated that because i didn't really know how to and didn't even know what it did.

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42 (edited by johndknp80 2010-06-22 06:00:31)

Re: My god Fallout 3 is really playable at low setting..( with some mid s

Fallout 3 on n10jh XP sp3. (OCed to only 1.8  sad )
I have generally great frames and got rid of 90% of the slow down (like the birthday party and medium to big firefights) by going onto fallout nexus and getting mod than removes the lighting effect from the muzzle flashes (enimies too) not the muzzle flash itself or the brightening of things in the area, but the rendered light like from a light bulb (cant notice the difference on the 10.2, barely looks different on my 42 inch HDMI boob toob), and another mod that removes all traces of motion blur.  I also made my own mod that changes the global settings for blood splatter (on your face/monitor) to a max count of 0 and a max time of 0 seconds.  With these 3 things that YOU DEFINATELY DONT MISS (except maybe the fancier muzzle flash, but not when your pushing a bit for smoothness) with the 'easy button' for medium it was almost like playing on my desktop but still hit spots that got chunky.  Alternately I click the low (not very low) and then up a few things like turning HDR back on and actor fade up to 6 for snipability and upping land quality a bit, etc. 

Another note: the mod called fellout that gets rid of the green tinge nonsense actually adds 2-7 fps and looks better.  (reminds me of the vibrant morrowind mod - rocked!)

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