Re: Installing a touchscreen in the N10

I was just wondering if it was possible to hide the USB-hub in the Express Card slot, and also to connect it there. Theoretically the Express Card interface can work as an USB-port as well. It is also rarely used, and an easily accessible place, and you could also disconnect the touchscreen from there when not needed without any external cables and you wouldn't even lose an USB-port.

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congrats u have done what no one else was willing to try, bravo u son of a gun  smile  , i would try but i would really just frick up my n10, and as anal as i am, the plug would have to be in the n10 (the "OCD") would take over, really would. but i am sure your accomplishment and adventure will benefit many people   cool one of the best threads out there, prob deserves a STICKEY   cool

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Re: Installing a touchscreen in the N10

zdanee wrote:

I was just wondering if it was possible to hide the USB-hub in the Express Card slot, and also to connect it there. Theoretically the Express Card interface can work as an USB-port as well. It is also rarely used, and an easily accessible place, and you could also disconnect the touchscreen from there when not needed without any external cables and you wouldn't even lose an USB-port.

That would be difficult to do, as the ExpressCard slot isn't open on the inside of the N10. So you still would have to route a cable externally  hmm

But as I said before, there is an internal solution to it. In an EeePC, you would connect the webcam to the hub, and the controller board to the connector where the webcam was on the motherboard before. The only problem with the N10 is that it doesn't use the same connectors on the motherboard, it uses one big connector for the webcam, light-sensor and microphone together. But I've found out that the webcam itself still uses that same connector from the EeePC, so if you make two extensed cables, you can still connect the webcam to the controller board and that latter to the cable the webcam was connected to. Of course, you then lose the ability to switch it off, unless you softwarematically turn off the webcam  lol

I'm pretty sure that should work, but there are no certainties of course. If I find thin enough cables (and they have to be really thin!) I'll give it a try. But for me, losing 1 USB-port isn't that bad, and I carry around a little hub anyway  big_smile

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Great job, well done. 

I was wondering if you have spoken to the company about making an adapter for the one plug that is different?  The reason why I ask this is because it sounds like the connector that attaches to the motherboard just needs to be a different shape/size, that everything else will match perfectly.  Is that correct, and what was there answer?

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Well, I haven't asked them. Would be kind of silly too, as you would not only lose the webcam, but also the light-sensor and microphone. Seems a pretty high price to pay for a touchscreen if you ask me  hmm

And I don't think they could make such a sensor on the controller board and hub IC, as it's a pretty big connector...

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What if they created a pass thru cable?  All the wires go in and split into two different directions.  In other words, a y-type of cable.  The y-cable would be split into usb for the camera and the rest onto the motherboard.  Then the camera split cable plugs directly into the hub.  I trully feel there is a huge market for this application at under $100.  I know I would do it without question.  What do you think? 

By the way, wouldn't you want this y-cable for yourself so that the touchscreen looks like a factory install?

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I don't say it would be great to have it that way, but I actually like the external solution for it's convenience. And I do not think the market would be that great, the N10 really isn't such a sale-success. It just wouldn't be cost-effective to make a solution for the N10 alone.

Maybe in a few months, when I find cables that are thin enough, I'll make it internal. But I'm just to big of a tech-geek to mind esthetics. If it works, it works  lol

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does this support multitouch or is there also a multitouch edition ?

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Wodan wrote:

does this support multitouch or is there also a multitouch edition ?

That question has already been asked on the first page, and my honest answer: I don't know yet, because Vista does not support multitouch. In about a month, I'll have Windows 7 and I'll be able to tell for sure.

But honestly, I don't think it supports multitouch as that would be a feature they tout on the product page, as it's kind off the modern buzz-word these days  big_smile

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Sorry, but I think It's the waste of time and money, plus battery.
Got rid of Windows Mobile communicators only to leave this "modern" touchscreens. It's exactly not for me.  But had fun about your jokes all over the topic  cool

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Re: Installing a touchscreen in the N10

Very important update!

I've been fiddling around with some options of the touch panel, and I've found one that is really interesting. Remember that my original plan was to replace the writing tablet I used by the touch screen? And remember I noticed that the touch panel wasn't sensitive enough to write in small handwriting, as I normally do on paper?

Turns out I was wrong! The touch panel is very much sensitive enough, even to the smallest detailed touches. There is this feature in the driver called 'Cursor Stabilization'. What it does is exactly what it sounds like, correcting small and shaky movements to a more streamlined line. But as I wrote an 'e' or an 'a' for example, it interpreted that as a small shake of my hand and replaced it with a straight line up, making it kind of useless to read you might think. But as I turned of this feature (by a simple unchecking the checkbox), the screen is now really sensitive to even the smallest touches.

It is now very much like writing on paper, and by using the shortkeys CTRL+ALT+ARROW I can turn the orientation of the screen upside down, turn the N10 upside down, and be writing as on a real sheet of paper (one a lot smoother!). This is kind of heaven for me, yet another device (the tablet) I can leave at home  lol

Needless to say it also makes the touch screen much more useful for Photoshop-retouching or hand-drawing things, as it now almost pixel-perfectly maps your movements on screen.

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I'm looking forwards to add a touchscreen to my N10.

Could you just make a small summary of all the steps/changes to do to the base kit ? Thanks !

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i think darkjeric has done quite a good job explaining what he did, maybe he has more to offer.

as for me i do not think i am good enough to do this, on my own, and if you are that way.  i would see if the seller has someone that will install it for you, or maybe you can find someone locally that could do it for you
hmm

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I'll see if I find some time this week to make a short step-by-step guide. However, you'll have to do it with lively descriptions from me, because I don't intend to take my N10 completely apart again just for taking some pictures  big_smile

I'll make the guide available on the Wiki, because I think it's better for tutorials and stuff. But don't shoot me if I don't get it done this week  wink

I can tell you already it does involve some wire-cutting and soldering. But don't be afraid, it's not soldering inside the N10. I just needed a longer wire, so I took the spare wire from the delivered box and soldered it together with the other cable supplied.

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darkjeric wrote:

I'll make the guide available on the Wiki, because I think it's better for tutorials and stuff. But don't shoot me if I don't get it done this week  wink

That would be great. wink

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Thank you smile

I know you described a lot of things in the topic, but they are a but confused (as you done multiple changes due to your broken screen). A little step-by-step would be really cool and useful smile

For pictures, if you don't have/can't take, that's not really a problem (if it's well explained ^^). I'll take some myself when I'll do it to help you wink

Again, thanks

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Hi, I really want to do this, if it was any other laptop I would. I did however purchase an Asus because it came with a 2 year warrenty (and my student bank account offered me £100 off :-P).

As I still have about 20 months left I don't really want to void my warranty for what is really a luxury. Is there anyone who could possibly do a certified upgrade? or any way to take my laptop apart without anyone knowing, (I assume it has the usual painted screw threads)

Thanks.

P.S.: If anyone finds a reasonable elegant external solution as well. I am really tempted :-P

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Re: Installing a touchscreen in the N10

spidermagicat - i do not believe there are any painted or sealed screws, at least i have not seen any.  since the warranty is so important to you i would not do it, but you may want to call asus and see what their opinion would be.

i upgraded my hdd, had to send n10 for service and they said i should put back in orig drive for service.

200pounds off  WOW

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There are some painted screws here and there (like those to get the screen case loose from the bottom unit). I'm pretty sure this procedure will void your warranty, as it involves taking apart the entire unit and messing with stuff internally.

Unless Asus makes some kind of deal with some system-builder, I don't see any company able to provide you with the modification while not voiding the warranty. Asus sells the EeePC TM91, so as far as they're concerned you should get that system if you want a touchscreen.

I can only recommend this modification if you're familiar with PC's internals. It was my first time taking apart a laptop and everything went pretty smooth, but that's because I've taken apart and built countless desktop-computers in my younger years. Laptops are basically desktop-PC's packed in very small cases, so for me it was all recognizable. However, if you don't have this kind of experience I wouldn't do it. It's not the taking apart that's hard, it's getting everything back in place. I still have two screws left which I'm sure were in my N10, but I just can't figure out where they were  lol

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