Topic: Which version of Windows 7

Which is the fastest version of Windows 7?  Should I install Starter or go with Home Premium or Ultimate?  Please advise based on speed and anything else anybody sees relevant.  Thank you.

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Re: Which version of Windows 7

i would think it would have to be starter, just b/c of its imprint but the other versions of w7 are sweet, and i am sure there is not a big difference.   hmm

do you actually have a copy of starter - if u do where can we get one?   hmm

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3 (edited by darkjeric 2010-02-18 07:33:01)

Re: Which version of Windows 7

Starter is in no way faster than any other version of Windows 7. Microsoft just needed to make a crippled version to be able to sell it for a very low price to netbook-OEM's. As far as I know, you can't even buy it as a consumer, but you shouldn't even want to  big_smile

For most people, Home Premium will be fine. If you need some more advanced networking control and XP Mode (does not work on the N10), then Professional is the way to go. But even Ultimate will run at exactly the same speed as all these other versions. I don't know where everyone gets the idea that Starter is in any way 'optimised' to run on netbooks, it just isn't. They just took useful stuff out to make it cheaper.

PS I'm running Win7 Professional 32bit on my N10 because that's the version I could get via school-discount  cool

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4 (edited by web3221 2010-02-18 15:04:24)

Re: Which version of Windows 7

darkjeric - show me why your above post is correct. please.   tongue

? -  " I don't know where everyone gets the idea that Starter is in any way 'optimised' to run on netbooks, it just isn't."

Then why have i read differently on the WEB from the so called experts and info being fed to them from MS?

my point, if the platform is smaller, i.e. things taken out doesn't it make sense that it would boot quicker, and also work somewhat quicker, even though it would be super minimal at best ??????   hmm

the main difference is a cost thing yes, but LESS, speeds things up, maybe not much, and is not really noticeable, but it is faster. for example, add one program, say ms office, and nothing else.  yours, mine, or ours will run/boot faster, than a computer that has "say" 400+ progs/apps/utilities. on the computer.  whether u have any version of w7 on the n10.

not sparring with you, i just want to understand, and know why my rationale is wrong.   hmm

i have hp and prof versions, and yes noone cannot get starter, unless someone has inside connections in MS, and even that would be next to impossible. but, if one does not ask, they will never get.   big_smile


VETTE1 -  w7 hp and prof, will do 99.8 % of everything you would need most likely.  starter is for cheap netbooks, so u will upgrade later.  ultimate is prettier, has bitlocker (highly overated), and something else that is basically worthless, i do not remember. all, u have to do is go to MS you can get a side by side comparison of the products. there u can make ur choice as to what u need.  if iremember correctly dif of hp and prof. is basically backup and image stuff,(do not hold me to this).   smile

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5 (edited by darkjeric 2010-02-18 15:50:35)

Re: Which version of Windows 7

There are no measurable differences in whatever benchmark you run. I've got Windows 7 Home Premium on a desktop, Professional on my N10 and Ultimate on my PC and all benchmark figures are the same (or comparable relative) as what I got when they were all running XP.

The only reason why Starter exists is because MS wanted to sell a very cheap version for netbooks, but not cut their sales of Home Premium with it. So they crippled it. You cannot even change your desktop wallpaper. I haven't seen many netbook manufacturers put Starter on even their lowest end netbooks, they all go with Home Premium or sometimes even XP still  yikes

Don't buy it? Here's the biggest and best comparison table I've found between all product versions: http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_skus_compare.asp

The only thing that could "improve" performance is that Starter does not have Aero or any of the desktop enhancements. But you can get the exact same result by turning those features off in the other versions, at least you then get the choice  tongue

And indeed, this discussion is quite pointless because Starter just isn't available to consumers  big_smile

So here's my advice:
Get Home Premium!

Unless: You absolutely need advanced networking options, then get Professional
Unless: You absolutely need Bitlocker to encrypt your files

(or, as in my case, get whatever version you can get a hold on for the least cash)

All the other stuff that's in the OS are either useless to normal people (like Branche Caching, designed to improve efficiency when 1.000+ systems talk to each other) or unusable on the N10 due to lack of hardware support (like XP Mode).

And if anyone can find a significant (like 5s or more) boot speed difference on the same machine between Starter and Home Premium, I'll eat some random stuff laying on my desk over here  tongue

PS @Web: I did an Anytime Upgrade on my sisters Windows 7 Home Premium desktop (went to Professional). The process took 6 minutes to complete and it took exactly 1.43Mb of extra space. It even starts a few seconds faster now (but that's probably because the registry was cleaned in the process). How does 1.43Mb make any difference when even the slow stock HDD runs at 60Mb/s? I don't know about you, but 1/60th of a second is very hard for me to notice  cool

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6 (edited by web3221 2010-02-18 19:25:43)

Re: Which version of Windows 7

DJ - that is what i said above just not as precise cause i did not know. but the logic is correct.

tongue

WEB said,   "i would think it would have to be starter, just b/c of its imprint but the other versions of w7 are sweet, and i am sure there is not a big difference"

DJ - that website link u gave us has the best w7 version comparison tables i have ever seen

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Re: Which version of Windows 7

I  think Windows 7 Ultimate  is best.Windows 7 Ultimate  provide many feature that are not in Windows 7 Home Premium .
1) Run many Windows XP productivity programs in Windows XP Mode.
2)Connect to company networks easily and more securely with Domain Join.
3) full-system Backup and Restore found in all editions, you can back up to a home or business network.
4)Help protect data on your PC and portable storage devices against loss or theft with BitLocker.
5)Work in the language of your choice and switch between any of 35 languages.

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Re: Which version of Windows 7

@markiecork

I share your opinion, but all of those 5 points are worthless to 90% of the world's population.

1) The XP-Mode initially didn't work without hardware-acceleration support from the processor (which the Atom doesn't have). A recent update changed that, but I tried XP-mode on the N10 (I use it on my desktop to use my old Hercules scanner) and it wasn't a pleasant experience. You wouldn't want to use it really...

2) Most people use these N10's on the go or at home (or at school, which is my second home). The networking options in Home Premium are enough for that 90% pf the population I spoke of.

3) The back-up software in Home Premium is what people would use for backing up their data, the extra options in Ultimate just make it easier when handling back-ups of hundreds of PC's (not even I have that many computer hardware at home, and I'm a real geek  lol )

4) When you don't use the N10 as corporate machine, Bitlocker isn't necessary. Unless you're paranoid about your privacy of course. I use KeePass for all my passwords and it uses an encrypted database on the hard-drive. I really couldn't care less if anybody could read my work-in-progress paper for school. Bitlocker also causes a performance hit on the CPU, which isn't a big issue on todays multicore monsters, but yet again, the Atom isn't a contemporary CPU performance-wise.

5) Switching languages only comes in handy when multiple users use the same computer (multinational family, school environment with computers in a common room, etc.) but I think most users of this forum use their N10 only for themselves.

So I agree completely that Windows 7 Ultimate is (how ironic) the ultimate version to get (I use it on my desktop too), but for the N10, it really doesn't add that much usable features yet does add a considerable cost  roll

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Re: Which version of Windows 7

darkjeric wrote:

@markiecork


3) The back-up software in Home Premium is what people would use for backing up their data, the extra options in Ultimate just make it easier when handling back-ups of hundreds of PC's (not even I have that many computer hardware at home, and I'm a real geek  lol )

4) When you don't use the N10 as corporate machine, Bitlocker isn't necessary. Unless you're paranoid about your privacy of course. I use KeePass for all my passwords and it uses an encrypted database on the hard-drive. I really couldn't care less if anybody could read my work-in-progress paper for school. Bitlocker also causes a performance hit on the CPU, which isn't a big issue on todays multicore monsters, but yet again, the Atom isn't a contemporary CPU performance-wise.

being able to backup to a network device would be usefull on a netbook.

bitlocker to go is the shiz and its only available on Ultimate

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