Topic: Performance - RAM and Hard Drive Upgrade

Would there be a noticeable performance upgrade going from PC-5300 2GB RAM to PC8500 2GB RAM (and clocking it properly, if possible) and going from a 320GB Scorpio Black to a 600GB Velociraptor? Is it worth the cost?

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2 (edited by darkjeric 2010-09-13 09:31:50)

Re: Performance - RAM and Hard Drive Upgrade

astroraptor wrote:

Would there be a noticeable performance upgrade going from PC-5300 2GB RAM to PC8500 2GB RAM (and clocking it properly, if possible) and going from a 320GB Scorpio Black to a 600GB Velociraptor? Is it worth the cost?

I would say, definitely not. The northbridge only goes up to 667Mhz for the memory (that's PC-5300) and can be overclocked to max. 800Mhz (PC-6400). So PC-8500 is definitely not worth it. The HDD-upgrade normally is advisable because the stock HDD is utter crap, but apparantly you already did that.

Will a Velociraptor fit? As far as I know, the Velocirapter is too thick to fit in laptops. The standard 2.5" drives for laptops are 9.5mm thick, while the velociraptor is 12mm. You wouldn't be able to close the plastic plate anymore...

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darkjeric wrote:
astroraptor wrote:

Would there be a noticeable performance upgrade going from PC-5300 2GB RAM to PC8500 2GB RAM (and clocking it properly, if possible) and going from a 320GB Scorpio Black to a 600GB Velociraptor? Is it worth the cost?

I would say, definitely not. The northbridge only goes up to 667Mhz for the memory (that's PC-5300) and can be overclocked to max. 800Mhz (PC-6400). So PC-8500 is definitely not worth it. The HDD-upgrade normally is advisable because the stock HDD is utter crap, but apparantly you already did that.

Will a Velociraptor fit? As far as I know, the Velocirapter is too thick to fit in laptops. The standard 2.5" drives for laptops are 9.5mm thick, while the velociraptor is 12mm. You wouldn't be able to close the plastic plate anymore...


So my best bet is PC6400? Even the 'raptor's made for laptops are 12mm?

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astroraptor wrote:

So my best bet is PC6400? Even the 'raptor's made for laptops are 12mm?

Actually, I wouldn't change the RAM at all. PC-6400 will not work natively because the chipset does not support it. You can only reach DDR2-800Mhz (PC-6400) by overclocking the FSB, and it depends heavily on your machine how far you can get it. My Atom N270 goes to 2.1Ghz (FSB 173Mhz), but there are others on this forum that don't even get passed 1.9Ghz. Either way, the RAM module that's inside the N10 is actually already a PC-6400 module, it reaches those speeds without a problem.

About the Raptors: There are no Raptors for laptops, there's only one series Velociraptors and they're all 2.5". Standard laptop drives are also 2.5", but as I've said the standard thickness is 9.5mm, where the Velociraptors are 12mm thick. The reason why Western Digital made the Velociraptors in this smaller form factor is because 2.5" has a higher data density (the platters are physically smaller) so it makes them faster AND cooler (platter is lighter, less weight for the motor) than standard desktop HDD's that are 3.5".

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5 (edited by astroraptor 2010-09-13 19:48:44)

Re: Performance - RAM and Hard Drive Upgrade

darkjeric wrote:
astroraptor wrote:

So my best bet is PC6400? Even the 'raptor's made for laptops are 12mm?

Actually, I wouldn't change the RAM at all. PC-6400 will not work natively because the chipset does not support it. You can only reach DDR2-800Mhz (PC-6400) by overclocking the FSB, and it depends heavily on your machine how far you can get it. My Atom N270 goes to 2.1Ghz (FSB 173Mhz), but there are others on this forum that don't even get passed 1.9Ghz. Either way, the RAM module that's inside the N10 is actually already a PC-6400 module, it reaches those speeds without a problem.

About the Raptors: There are no Raptors for laptops, there's only one series Velociraptors and they're all 2.5". Standard laptop drives are also 2.5", but as I've said the standard thickness is 9.5mm, where the Velociraptors are 12mm thick. The reason why Western Digital made the Velociraptors in this smaller form factor is because 2.5" has a higher data density (the platters are physically smaller) so it makes them faster AND cooler (platter is lighter, less weight for the motor) than standard desktop HDD's that are 3.5".

My RAM is PC5300 sad I just want my RAM to run at 800MHz rather than 533MHz (came stock with 667MHz RAM).

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How about RAMs with smaller timings?

Asus N10Jc @ 2.06 Ghz - XP / 7 Dual - 2GB 667Mhz RAM - WD Scorpio Blue 250Gb - FSB:DRAM 1:2 - CVV 1.1V

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Re: Performance - RAM and Hard Drive Upgrade

The timings I'm not sure off, but don't expect any miracles. The 945GSE chipset in the N10 is old, and I mean REALLY old. I'm pretty sure it predates Windows Vista, and it's definitely a few years older than the Atom processor. Intel just had a bunch of them lying around in warehouses so they put the original Atom together with a hog of a chipset. Either way, memory timings don't affect performance in a noticeable way...

@astroraptor: Maybe it is, but try OC'ing and see the RAM fly. You'll hit an FSB/chipset-wall long before the RAM reaches its limit. Either way, putting a faster RAM-module in there will be a waste of money, because the chipset only knows PC-5300 (667Mhz) as its maximum attainable speed.

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